“Here’s the thing. All narcissists know exactly what they are doing. They are all aware of their behaviors. They just don’t care if it harms other people.”
In this week’s episode of Off the Cuff with Danny LoPriore, my guest is psychologist, relationship coach, and nationally known expert on narcissism, Dr. Jaime Zuckerman, also known as Dr. Z. She works with people nationwide, helping them understand the complexities of narcissistic relationships, providing tools and customized behavior plans to help people make healthy choices.
“Because of how a narcissist operates, it is very rare they are going to go into therapy. It’s just not going to happen. Unless its court mandated or it’s a custody dispute, or substance abuse. They are rarely going to go onto therapy. And if they do go into therapy, its usually with somebody else like their partner, and they manipulate the sessions. Its very rate that you find a narcissist who stays in therapy and does the work. It is a personality disorder.” Dr. Zuckerman (03:33)
Jaime and I talk about narcissism at length and in detail. We discuss how narcissistic people think, react, and behave and why so people self-diagnose or misdiagnose themselves or another as being a narcissist. There are moments of levity, but the topic of discussion remains unchanged as we dwell further into how narcissistic people view the world and perceive their surroundings.
“You are an object to them. You don’t have a separate mind, values, opinions. You’re an object and you’re in the way. Narcissists look at people as objects and they have a distinct purpose and once that purpose is done, you’re done.” Dr. Zuckerman – (30:55)
So many people find themselves in narcissistic relationships and they are uncertain as to how to move forward especially with kids involved. They even start to doubt their own judgements and decisions. So a big part of my interaction with Dr. Zuckerman in this episode covers narcissistic relationships and how can one get out such engagement.
“I think it was probably his choice. Because he wanted to be maybe make it not this secretive stigmatized thing. It happens. It happens to a lot of people. He is getting help for it just like as if your leg was broken. Just like you as if you needed heart surgery. You are seeking out help for a condition. I’m thrilled that he did it. I think its probably his choice to vocalize it.” Dr. Zuckerman – (51:53)
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